Posted by: davidbowerkingwood | October 7, 2025

The (Abysmal) State of Theology in 2025, Ken Ham, Answers In Genesis

The following blog, by Ken Ham, raised serious concerns about the current level of understanding of what Christianity is all about. It is my intention to address these issues in a series of blogs which will provide a clear Biblical description of what the Bible actually teaches us about them.

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Well, the results of the new State of Theology survey from Ligonier Ministries and Lifeway Research is now available, and it’s as disappointing as the 2022 version. The answers were an inconsistent mess highlighting US Evangelicals’ lack of knowledge regarding what the Word of God teaches regarding doctrine and theology. Biblical illiteracy is an epidemic.

I’ll give you just a sampling of the results, filtered for Evangelicals, but first here is their definition of an Evangelical:

Evangelicals were defined by Lifeway Research as people who strongly agreed with the following four statements:

  • The Bible is the highest authority for what I believe.
  • It is very important for me personally to encourage non-Christians to trust Jesus Christ as their Savior.
  • Jesus Christ’s death on the cross is the only sacrifice that could remove the penalty of my sin.
  • Only those who trust in Jesus Christ alone as their Savior receive God’s free gift of eternal salvation.

So what do these Evangelicals believe beyond those four basic beliefs?

Well,

  • 64% believe that “Everyone is born innocent in the eyes of God.”
  • 53% agree that “Everyone sins a little, but most people are good by nature.”
  • 53% think that “The Holy Spirit is a force but is not a personal being”—compare this with the fact that 98% agreed with the statement: “There is one true God in three persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.” Talk about inconsistent!
  • 47% agree that “God accepts the worship of all religions, including Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.”
  • 28% say that “Jesus was a great teacher, but he was not God.”
  • 17% believe that “The Bible, like all sacred writings, contains helpful accounts of ancient myths but is not literally true.”
  • 19% affirm that “Modern science disproves the Bible.”
  • 16% likewise say that “The Bible’s condemnation of homosexual behavior doesn’t apply today.”
  • 28% think that “Religious belief is not about objective truth”—and another 19% aren’t sure how to answer this question.

Whew, what a shocking mess! To be considered an Evangelical on the survey, each respondent had to answer that they “strongly agree” that “The Bible is the highest authority for what I believe,” and yet 19% think science has disproven it, a similar percentage likewise don’t think what the Bible says about homosexuality applies to us today, and nearly half are confused about objective truth and Christianity!

Similarly, 98% affirm the doctrine of the Trinity, but over half think the Holy Spirit is just a force, and 28% think Jesus was just some great teacher. That doesn’t make sense!

They also affirmed it’s important for them to tell others about Jesus and that Jesus’ death is the only way to be forgiven, and yet nearly half think God accepts the worship of other religions. Again, such inconsistency in beliefs!

We’ve raised generations on “Bible stories” without giving them the meat of God’s Word, teaching them to think biblically, or shaping their biblical worldview.

The state of theology among so-called Evangelicals is sobering. It really should be a wake-up call to both pastors and parents. We’ve raised generations on “Bible stories” without giving them the meat of God’s Word, teaching them to think biblically, or shaping their biblical worldview. Instead of being guided by Scripture, they’re guided by a mishmash of biblical teaching and our culture’s beliefs.

It’s results like these that prompted us to write our Answers Bible Curriculum (we now have separate versions for Sunday school and homeschool). We want to come alongside churches and parents to raise godly generations who know what they believe and why they believe it. That’s why our curriculum is a chronological journey through the whole Bible and features apologetics, biblical worldview, doctrine, theology, and life application. I encourage you to check it out.

So what can we do about these kinds of survey results? Well, first, parents need to be teaching their children! Don’t just assume your children are learning what they need to know about God, the Bible, and salvation at church. Ultimately, it’s your responsibility to teach and disciple your children. Have you prioritized that in your home? Are you even equipped to do this kind of teaching with your children? If not, start and learn together!

Secondly, pastors and other Christian leaders need to stop assuming their congregations know the basics of the Christian faith, and they need to start incorporating theology and doctrine into their teaching. Pastors are called to be shepherds, discipling the flock. Part of that is teaching doctrine and theology so their churches are filled with robust Christians who’ve moved on from “milk” to “meat.”

I pray these shocking results serve as a wake-up call to the church to obey Christ’s parting command before his ascension:

All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. (Matthew 28:18–20 NIV)

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying,
Ken

This item was written with the assistance of AiG’s research team.

Next time we will discover what the Bible actually teaches about, “Everyone is born innocent in the eyes of God.”


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  1. Unknown's avatar

    I’m grateful that Kingsland Baptist Church is truly teaching the full counsel of scripture.

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  2. […] first two false beliefs listed in The (Abysmal) State of Theology in 2025, Ken Ham, Answers In Genesis; 64% believe that “Everyone is born innocent in the eyes of God.” 53% agree that “Everyone […]

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      While they are innocent, they are spiritually dead and will eventually need to be born again. There appears to be an age of accountability which may be unique to each individual which would allow said individual entrance to heaven if they die before reaching that point. I have a grandson who died at 10 months of age that I expect to see in heaven.

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    A comprehensive Jewish polemic against the theological foundations of Xtianity and Islam. Where was JeZeus throughout the Shoah? Where was Allah throughout the Nakba total defeat disasters of ’48, ’67, & most recently the 12 Day War?

    Explain how the local tribal god of Sinai who dwells in the Mishkan Yatzir Ha-Tov/strictly and only within the hearts of the chosen Cohen seed of Avraham, Yitzak, and Yaacov – upon this Earth, does eternally judge the Monotheistic Universal Gods of Golgotha (place of the skull) and Mecca & Medina who occupy the Heavens – as false Baal Gods of Av Tuma avoda zarah – no different from the Gods worshipped by Par’o and Egypt or the Gods worshipped by the Canaanites.

    The Torah’s God is not a distant “universal father” but the local, tribal Elohim of Sinai, who entered history through the brit cut between the pieces with Avraham, promising land and seed to Israel alone. This God judges all nations but resides only in the mishkan (tabernacle) of Jewish hearts committed to tohorah and tzedek (justice). Monotheism’s universalism profanes this faith that pursues justice within the borders of the oath brit lands, by inventing heavenly overlords who demand submission from all humanity, violating the Second Commandment: “You shall have no other gods before Me”, which explicitly condemns the polytheistic undertones of trinitarian Christianity and the absolutist Allah of Islam as echoes of Ba’al worship—gods of storm, fertility, or conquest that promise salvation but deliver tumah.

    JeZeus as a Protocols of the Elders of Zion NT blood libel slander, did not know the fundamental distinction which separates Torah common law from Roman Statute Law. Likewise his similar Nathan of Gaza who served as the disciple of Shabbetai Tzvi … commonly known in NT rhetoric propaganda as “the Apostle Paul”. To sanctify the mitzva of shabbat (all Torah commandments apply equally to all chosen Cohen seed of the Avot – including the mitzva of Moshiach) requires making the הבדלה distinction between time-oriented Av commandments from toldot positive & negative commandments which do not require k’vanna; this בינה that discerns like from like מלאכה מן עבודה, separates holy from profane – t’ruma from chol. The imaginary man JeZeus did not “understand” the mitzva of shabbat any more than do Xtians understand the mitzva of Moshiach or Muslims understand the mitzva of Torah prophets; Torah prophets command mussar – T’NaCH does not instruct history because prophesy as a mussar rebuke applies equally straight across the board to all generations of the chosen Cohen seed of the Avot, no different than Shabbat and Moshiach.

    The dedication of the House of Aaron as Moshiach serves as the Av precedent for all other Moshiach dedications thereafter. The precedent for korbanot learns from the rejection of Cain’s korban. A Torah korban exists as a time-oriented commandment which requires the “wisdom” of k’vanna-swearing a Torah oath through שם ומלכות. The term מלכות refers to the king-like leadership direction of the 13 tohor Oral Torah spirits which Moshe Rabbeinu perceived at Horev 40 days following the sin of the Golden Calf av definition of all avoda zarah for all generations. The Oral Torah revelation occurred on Yom Kippor wherein HaShem remembered the oaths sworn unto the Avot and annulled the vow to make from Moshe the father for the chosen Cohen people. Just as brit does not translate correctly as covenant, so too and how much more so t’shuva does not correctly translate as repentance for sin. Torah faith does not atone for sin, Yom Kippor makes atonement for a failure to rule the oath sworn lands with righteous judicial common law Sanhedrin justice which makes fair restitution of damages inflicted by bnai brit upon bnai brit. Aaron as the first anointed Moshiach – dedicates through the sanctification of korbanot the righteous pursuit of judicial justice among the chosen Cohen seed of the Avot within the borders of Judea.

    Matthew genealogy traces the lineage of its Harry Potter through Joseph. Luke’s genealogy traces its lineage through Mary. LOL. Matthew lists 42 generations while Luke lists 77 generations! Matthew begins with Avraham and moves forward while Luke begins with Adam. The final name in Matthew’s genealogy Joseph (husband of Mary). While Luke ends with JeZeus. Matthew follows Solomon’s line; Luke follows Nathan’s line. All gospel Roman forgeries fail to grasp the Torah negative commandment of a “bastard child”.

    The gospel of Luke ignores that all Goyim reject to this day the revelation of the Torah at Sinai. No gospel forgery ever once includes the 1st Commandment revelation of HaShem who dwells thereafter only within the Yatzir Ha-Tov of the hearts of the Chosen Cohen seed of Avraham Yitzak and Yaacov – brit cut between the pieces. Nathan, another descendant of David not tied to the kingship.

    Anymore than the gospels has any linkage to the Torah dedication of the mitzva of Moshiach – based upon king David’s failure to judge the Case of Bat Sheva’s husband with justice. Ruling the land/people with righteous judicial justice defines the Torah intent of the mitzva of Moshiach. Luke’s attempt to make its false messiah into an av tuma Universal messiah for all Mankind, violates the revelation of the Torah at Sinai.

    Moshe first anointed the House of Aaron as Moshiach. Aaron stands on the foundation of Elohim acceptance of the sacrifice dedicated by Hevel, despite Cain being born first. This theme duplicated again and again in Yishmael/Yitzak, Esau\Yaacov, Reuven\Yosef, pre-sin of Golden Calf first born of Israel/post Golden Calf tribe of Levi. The Luke/puke contradicts JeZeus’s declaration to the Samaritan woman! Hence the NT compare more to a superman comic book than an actual replacement of the brit chosen Cohen seed of the Avot replaced by a Roman fictional Harry Potter messiah.

    The greatest flaw of the gospel forgeries, hands down without any question, their utter replacement theological failure which fails to grasp that all the Torah mitzvot revealed at Sinai apply equally – straight across the board – like shabbat and tohorat Ha-beit for married women – to all generations of the chosen Cohen seed of Avraham Yitzak and Yaacov.

    Furthermore the JeZeus false messiah failed to differentiate the Avot in Genesis perception of El, Elohim, El Shaddai etc as a God in the Heavens from the revelation of HaShem in the 1st Sinai Commandment wherein the Divine Presence middot revealed to Moshe after the sin of the Golden Calf on Yom Kippur live in this Earth only within the hearts of the Yatzir Ha-Tov Cohen people. When the followers of the Harry Potter false messiah asked their God how to pray he taught them: Our Father who is in Heaven … this fundamentally violates and profanes the revelation of the Torah at Sinai – the Spirits of HaShem live within the Tabernacle of the Yatzir Ha-Tov within the bnai brit Cohen hearts.

    Tefillah – Kre’a Shma – Hear Israel HaShem Elohynu HaShem Echad. The word One does not refer as the av tuma avoda zara theologies promoted by the NT and Koran false prophet frauds of Universal Monotheism. Monotheism violates the 2nd Sinai Commandment; HaShem sent Moshe to Egypt to judge the Gods of Egypt! Rather the word ONE refers to the oath that a Cohen swears through his tefillen to remember the oaths sworn by Avraham Yitzak and Yaacov wherein the Avot cut an oath alliance to father the chosen Cohen people. Hence the 3 Divine Names in this one verse have the intention to remember the oaths the Avot swore to father the chosen Cohen seed for all eternity. Furthermore, the name Elohynu judges and separates HaShem from HaShem; acceptance of the Written and Oral Torah revelation לשמה.

    The father determines the genealogy of both sons of Aaron and Kings of both Yechuda and Israel. The NT fraud has no concept that once a man acquires title to the O’lam Ha’bah (future born children) of his wife, that even if Zeus himself fathered Hercules that under Torah law Hercules constitutes a bastard. That the beating of JeZeus almost to death and torturing him upon a cross compares to offering a deformed animal on an altar as a Torah sacrifice. תורה לא בשמים – a direct quote from the Book of D’varim which defines the revelation of the First Sinai Commandment for all eternity thereafter. JeZeus depicted as the “Son of God/virgin birth” … a bastard child forever excluded כרת from the seed of the Avot chosen Cohen people.

    The brutal murder of fictional Harry Potter JeZeus through judicial corruption and injustice totally the opposite of Moshe dedication of the House of Aaron as Moshiach. The prophet Shmuel first anointed Shaul of the tribe of Binyamin as Moshiach, but his failure to pursue justice – specifically in the mitzva of Amalek (understood as Jewish ערב רב – assimilated Jews who follow foreign cultures & customs who intermarry with Goyim who reject the revelation of the Torah at Sinai.) Amalek or antisemitism plagues all generations of Jews with Torah curses no different than the plague curses in Egypt.

    Superficially Yonah sent to “warn” the king of Assyria. But Torah prophets serve only as the mussar police of Sanhedrin courtroom rulings. The Sanhedrin courts only have jurisdiction within the borders of Judea. Hence for the prophet Yona sent to Assyria his mission replicates that of Moshe in Egypt sent to cause the exiled 10 tribes of Israel to remember the brit oath sworn to the Avot. Assyria conquered shortly after Yonah commanded his mussar to the exiled seed of the 10 Tribes by the Babylonian empire.

    Contrasts the Torah’s depth with the superficial, treif distortions peddled by the church—as epitomized in that 1956 Hollywood spectacle, The Ten Commandments, where a bald Yul Brynner as Pharaoh and a chiseled Charlton Heston as Moshe reduce Sinai to a cinematic farce. The revelation of the Torah at Sinai caused Israel to recoil after hearing only the first two dibrot (statements) directly from HaShem’s tohor spirits.

    Understanding why the aseret ha-dibrot (the “Ten Statements,” not “Commandments” as the church mistranslates to fit its legalistic idolatry) appear twice. Israel demanded thereafter that Moshe ascend to receive the remainder of the Torah—Written and Oral—lest these tohor middot consume their Yatzir Ha-Raw tuma middot.

    The aseret ha-dibrot repeated twice in the Torah, this duplication, it exposes the root of Torah common law; which stands firmly upon bininei avot—the foundational “building fathers” or precedents that generate an expansive edifice of halachah. As enslaved Israel made bricks to build Egyptian treasure cities, the Talmud employs the building block of Hillel’s 7 middot, Akiva’s 10 middot, Yishmael’s 13 middot, and HaGallilee’s 32 middot; every sugya of Gemara stands upon these יסודי logical building blocks.

    These are not mere repetitions for emphasis, as Goyim theologians defame the Talmud as the words of Men, far removed from the Word of God! Rather the concept of T’NaCH prophetic Oral Torah mussar middot and Talmudic halachic middot bridge the gap of holiness which elevates holy to most holy commandments. Shabbat serves as an Av precedent for all other wisdom-commandments which require k’vanna wherein Jews in all generations dedicates tohor Oral Torah middot – which the Talmud calls: מלכות. As the Torah has two grades of commandments the T’NaCH & Talmud judicial common law have two grades of middot.

    Torah speaks in the language of Man. The kabbalistic term “shekinah” stands upon the Mishkan precedent. Its not the form of the Mishkan and its vessels which defines the revelation of the Torah at Sinai/Horev; anymore than its the 6 days of Creation משל, but rather the introduction of time oriented commandments נמשל. The נמשל that the רוח הקדוש Oral Torah middot of Horev breath life into the Ya’tzir Ha-Tov of the Chosen Cohen peoples’ hearts. Hence the error spelling of the word heart as לבב in the tefillah דאורייתא acceptance of the yoke of the “kingdom of heaven”.

    Meaning remembering the oath sworn by the Avot to father the Chosen Cohen people and the acceptance of the Written and Oral Torahs at Sinai and Horev. Herein designates the k’vanna of the time-oriented wisdom commandment known as קריא שמע. As this commandment applies to all generations of Israel so too the mitzva of Moshiach. Jews do not wait for a fabled 2nd coming of JeZeus. “Time” not as literal hours but as opportune wisdom (as in Ecclesiastes 3:1–8’s “a time for every matter”). Thus the repetition of the 10 dibrot serve to define the elevation of time-oriented commandments as the k’vanna to remember the redemption from Egyptian exile – as expressed in the first Sinai t’shuva commandment.

    The revelation of the Oral Torah, according to the kabbalah taught by rabbi Akiva’s פרדס understanding, reveals a dynamic logic variable inductive format, as opposed to the ancient Greek philosophers static rigid syllogism deductive logic. Islam’s sharia mimics toldot without av wisdom, leading to rigid fatawa absent prophetic t’shuva. In essence, the twice-repeated 10 dibrot reveal the Torah’s blueprint for common law: a beniyan av teaching generational renewal, mitzvah classification, and mussar-k’vanna. This stands eternally against the church’s movie myths and Islam’s static codes, affirming Sinai’s wisdom for Israel’s seed alone.

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      5 The next day the rulers, the elders and the teachers of the law met in Jerusalem. 6 Annas the high priest was there, and so were Caiaphas, John, Alexander and others of the high priest’s family. 7 They had Peter and John brought before them and began to question them: “By what power or what name did you do this?”

      8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them: “Rulers and elders of the people! 9 If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a man who was lame and are being asked how he was healed, 10 then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11 Jesus is

      “‘the stone you builders rejected,
      which has become the cornerstone.’

      12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”

      13 When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus. 14 But since they could see the man who had been healed standing there with them, there was nothing they could say. 15 So they ordered them to withdraw from the Sanhedrin and then conferred together. 16 “What are we going to do with these men?” they asked. “Everyone living in Jerusalem knows they have performed a notable sign, and we cannot deny it. 17 But to stop this thing from spreading any further among the people, we must warn them to speak no longer to anyone in this name.”

      18 Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John replied, “Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20 As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.”

      21 After further threats they let them go. They could not decide how to punish them, because all the people were praising God for what had happened. 22 For the man who was miraculously healed was over forty years old.

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      • mosckerr's avatar

        1. Peter claims that through Jesus, significant miracles occur, thereby validating his role as a miracle worker and messianic figure… this serves as zero proof of the mitzva of Moshiach according to the Torah. Moshiach based upon King Shaul and David and all the kings of Yechuda and Israel thereafter has nothing to do with healing miracle workers as the definition of the Torah mitzva of Moshiach.

        The prophet Natan issued a mussar prophetic rebuke to king David when he contemplated the possibility to duplicate how the Goyim worshipped their Gods through construction of Great Cathedrals. The Torah “Temple” which king David commanded his son Shlomo to build – not a literal wood and stone building. Rather the establishment of the Torah Constitutional mandate of Sanhedrin Federal common law courtrooms across Jerusalem and the cities of refuge. The last mitzva which Moshe Rabbeinu sanctified: Moshe constructed three Cities of Refuges/Small Sanhedrin courtrooms on the other side of the Jordan river. Moshe did not build a Goyim manner of worship Temple. The revelation of the Mishkan teaches the mussar that HaShem lives in the hearts of the chosen Cohen people through tohor middot spirits. Hence the p’suk: שמות: כה:ח — ועשו לי מקדש ושכנתי בתוכם — prioritizes the vision that HaShem through the revelation of Oral Torah tohor middot quickens the Yatzir Ha-Tov with life through all the generations of Israel upon this Earth. This vision has nothing to do with the NT “salvation from sin” substitute theology.

        2. The NT fails to address the central act of rebellion when Israel demanded from the prophet Shmuel a king, when HaShem through the Sinai brit ruled as KING. Recall that Israel requested a king to lead the nation to fight its wars. The bait N’ switch to the topic of “salvation” therefore exists as classic substitute theology. Revisionist history defines the NT like Holocaust Denial defines modern anti-Semitism. Specifically, the NT introduces a theology of a Universal God. This alien foreign idea has nothing to do with the Sinai revelation because Goyim rejected the Torah and do not accept the Torah to this very day.

        The deliverance from Egyptian bondage and conquering of Canaan – these fundamental “miracles” serve as the basis for Israel to rule conquered Canaan with justice as a total repudiation of Par’o judicial injustice to Israel. Torah prophesy centers upon mussar rebukes which all generations can grow as their own ideas sprouting from within their Yatzir Ha-Tov spirits breathing within their hearts. The NT shares no connection whatsoever toward achieving the justice leadership of HaShem in this world through the Torah mandate of Federal Sanhedrin common law courtrooms.

        Both the NT and Koran attempt to replace the oath brit which defines Torah as the Written Constitution of the Cohen Republic. They both attempt to establish a theological backdrop wherein Torah prophesy applies to all Goyim Universally. These attempts reject the revelation of the Torah at Sinai but seek thereafter to worship their Name God replacements as substitutes for HaShem taking Israel alone out of Egypt. Such theological revisionist history substitutes other Universal Gods for the local god which only Israel accepted at Sinai. Miraculous miracle workers do not replace the prophetic mussar visions established through the T’NaCH literature which the NT attempts to replace with the label “Old Testament”.

        3. Declaring the ‘Good News’ of the Name of JeZeus has no T’NaCH precedent. Torah a common law legality which stands upon the foundation of precedents. No courtroom objectively examines (prosecutor vs. defense legal briefs) any courtroom case based upon the “Name of JeZeus”. Hence the challenge to Judicial common law courtroom practices – simply a red herring. The Written Torah serve the chief function as the Constitution of the Republic of Judea which mandates Sanhedrin common law courtrooms. No different than the US Constitution mandates 3 branches of Government. By emphasizing the miraculous events attributed to JeZeus as the Son of God, this substitute theology replaces oath brit cut with Avraham Yitzak and Yaacov to father the chosen Cohen people.

        The Written Torah serves as the legal constitution for the Jewish people, establishing a system grounded in established precedents and judicial proceedings. The NT does not provide this framework or engage with it meaningfully. Most significantly: the NT emphasis upon the Divine Name of JeZeus worships a new God which the Avot did not know.

        The Written Torah functions analogously to a constitution, establishing a system of laws that courts operate upon, thus framing the concept of justice within a concrete legal structure. The absence of any NT precedent in this regard significantly undermines its claims. The NT pivot to a new Universal Trinity God contradicts the specific oath britot cut through the Torah alliance established by Avraham Yitzak and Yaacov.

        4. Miracles as “signs” do not prove or disprove the mitzva of Moshiach. Moshe anointed Aaron as Moshiach. Aaron dedicated korbanot/sacrifices NOT as some Cain-like “Barbeque to Heaven”, but rather based upon the k’vanna of Hevel whose korban dedicated the sanctification through swearing an oath to pursue justice in this world. Justice: defined through both T’NaCH & Talmudic common law – as the legal pursuit of justice/fair compensation of damages as the intent of the Torah commandment: “Eye for an Eye and tooth for a tooth”. Legal judicial justice rejects as טיפש פשט-utter bird brained stupidity-any literal reading for “Eye for an Eye”!

        The sacrifices are not simply ritualistic acts. They are deeply intertwined with the intent (k’vanna) to pursue justice and right wrongs, differentiating them from mere offerings. This highlights a legal and ethical framework wherein Moshe first anointed the House of Aaron as Moshiach; it explains the connection between the revelation of the Mishkan with the pursuit of judicial justice through logically juxtaposing the Torah mitzva of sacrifices against the Torah mitzva to pursue justice.

        The understanding of korbanot not as mere rituals but as essential acts tied to the pursuit of justice brings a critical perspective on their religious significance. The intentionality behind these actions (k’vanna) focuses on justice and ethical behavior which has nothing to do with the NT “forgiveness of sin as the salvation of Mankind”.

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      • davidbowerkingwood's avatar

        Hello Mosckerr,

        Greetings in the name of our mutual creator, Jesus Christ! Your enthusiasm for Judaism makes me wonder if you’ll be one of the 144,000.

        9 And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10 so as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him: bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11 being strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy; 12 giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. 13 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

        15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. 19 For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.

        21 And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, 22 he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.

        In Christ’s love,
        David

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        Its not that I hate post Shoah Xtianity and Islam, but rather hold their good name reputation in utter and complete contempt. By their fruits you shall know them.

        I likewise hold rabbinic leadership in g’lut of the Middle Ages in equal disgrace and contempt.

        Extending the Jewish Polemic: Rambam’s Assimilation as Parallel to Xtian and Islamic Theological Substitutions. The Rambam Civil War compares to the anarchy in Iran today.

        Building against the foundational critiques of the Xtian false messiah and Muslim false prophet revisionist theologies whereby Goyim who reject the revelation of the Torah at Sinai & Horev introduced ‘New God’ theologies aimed to supplant the oath alliance brit Sinai faith which permanently cuts a brit faith that HaShem ruling in this Earth לא בשמים היא – through the spirits of tohor Oral Torah middot, which permanently dwell and occupy the משל משכן of the Sinai revelation contained and interpreted by the נמשל יצר הטוב within the heart as differentiated by the Torah language of kre’a shma’s: בכל לבבך\לבבכם, as interpreted by rabbi Yechuda.

        Just as the NT and Koran negate the Oral Torah’s dynamic common law in favor of static, universal doctrines—replacing the particularistic local brit with their theological dogmas of “Universal God for all Goyim” — the Rambam’s sh’itta likewise assimilates Greco-Roman statute law and Aristotelian philosophy as a replacement for פרדס logic; specifically through the 7 middot of Hillel, 10 middot of Akiva, 13 middot of Yishmael, and 32 middot of Yossi Galil’s 32 Aggadic middot – building blocks נמשל, which replace logical Case/Rule comparisons to other Case/Rule disputes heard by different courtrooms; with the Torah משל of straw required to make bricks interpreted by the above נמשל of inductive logical comparison to interpret “k’vanna” of time-oriented mitzvot as the definition of Torah wisdom. (That’s quite a mouthful, please don’t choke.)

        The Torah contrasts with how Goyim define idolatry – limited to graven images which the NaCH prophets completely mock in absolute and total derision. Torah negative commandments directly פסול-declare as treif-Jewish assimilation wherein Jews abandon the culture and customs of the chosen Cohen people as established by the sealed מסורת – the T’NaCH, Talmud, Siddur – replaced by Goyim cultures and customs; ultimately resulting in Jewish intermarriage with Goyim who reject the revelation of the Torah at Sinai – the brit of the chosen Cohen people. Forsaking the oath Sinai brit, abandons the 3 oaths sworn by the Avot whereby they eternally father the chosen עולם הבא Cohen seed; it rejects the yoke of the kingdom of heaven which define the k’vanna of tefillah; wherein Israel accepts through tefillen permission to swear Torah oaths which absolutely define the k’vanna and intent of the Written and Oral Torah revelations.

        Assimilated Reshonim scholarship upon the T’NaCH/Talmud\Midrashim failed to arouse Jews to rise up and re-conquer our homelands like as did Herzl’s “Jewish State” political Zionism and Ahad Ha’am’s Cultural Zionism, expressed through his essay titled: “The Jewish State and the Jewish Problem”. A millennium after the Hanukkah Civil War, the Rambam Civil War made a “mishna torah”; but whereas Jews in Israel who can do mitzvot לשמה lit the Menorah lights of victory over the ערב רב Tzeddukim … charisma foreign counter-cultures in g’lut lead by the Rambam in particular and the vast majority of Spanish assimilated Reshonim scholars in general – g’lut Jewry lacks the Yatzir Ha-Tov tohor middot dominance which permits them to likewise observe Torah commandments לשמה – consequent to the Torah curse of g’lut.

        According to the RambaN’s Chumash commentary, g’lut Jewry observe mitzvot primarily as a zikaron (remembrance) of their identity, heritage, and connection to the land of Israel, rather than fulfilling them in their complete and original ideal לשמה. The Ramban acknowledges examples of obvious mitzvot cannot be fully realized when the Jewish people are not in their homeland, particularly those related to the “Temple” משל of the judicial justice נמשל and agricultural laws. Based upon the Talmud’s prioritization of time-oriented k’vanna of tefilla over Cain’s sacrifice as a barbeque to heaven positive Torah commandment which requires no k’vanna. G’lut Jewry directly compare to the ger tzeddik who rejects to do certain Torah commandments; who favors how the Shomronim, Tzeddukim, and Karaim observe Torah as religious ritual law, rather than how the P’rushim, instructors of the Oral Torah masoret, validate the Writtten Torah as the Constitution of the Republic which mandates Oral Torah court room common law to establish the rule of righteous justice in the Cohen eternal inheritance land!

        Off the דרך curse g’lut statute law assimilated Judaism culminated its “Berlin is our new Jerusalem” by duplicating the rebellion of the Wilderness generations who refused to conquer Canaan from fear of giants! Chaim Weizmann in 1937, “Jews of the world, where are you?”, shortly followed up with the White Paper and FDR closing the Golden Medina to Jewish refugees in 1939 & thereafter. The story of the curse Wilderness Generation repeated in the virtual destruction of Western European Jewry in the Nazi gas chambers of three years duration.

        The Rambam’s Mishneh Torah, a systematic code of halacha, represents a departure from the Oral Torah’s common law tradition, which thrives on dialectical debate, precedents, and inductive reasoning as seen in the Gemara’s sugyot. Instead, it adopts a Roman-style statute law format—concise, authoritative rulings without the underlying disputes—mirroring the codified canons of Christianity (e.g., the Nicene Creed’s dogmatic assertions) and Islam (e.g., the Sharia’s fiqh compilations). This negation of the Oral Torah’s fluidity prompted swift condemnation.

        In 1232, the rabbis of northern France, steeped in the Ashkenazi tradition of Rashi (1040–1105) and the Tosafot, issued a ban against studying philosophy, explicitly targeting the Rambam’s works for their rationalist bent. Led by figures like Solomon ben Abraham of Montpellier, this ban was amplified by Rabbeinu Yonah Gerondi (d. 1263), who traveled to gather support, viewing the Rambam’s integration of Aristotelian logic as a threat to traditional Torah study. Rabbeinu Yonah, a relative of Nahmanides (Ramban), initially spearheaded the anti-Maimonidean agitation in Provence and Spain, seeing it as akin to Hellenistic corruption. The French school’s emphasis on Tosafist common law commentaries upon the Talmud denounced the Rambam’s declarative style, which omitted sources and debates, much as the NT & Koran omits Sinai’s context to proclaim a “new covenant,” or “final prophet”.

        This controversy escalated into the Maimonidean Controversies (1232–1305), involving bans and counter-bans across Europe. Rabbeinu Yonah later repented after witnessing the Inquisition burn all the Talmud manuscripts in Paris France in 1242. A disaster which duplicated the dynastic Hashmonean Civil War which pitted Hyrcanus II against Aristobulus II. Both brothers appealed to Roman general Pompey to resolve their dynastic dispute over the Crown. Pompey’s Army marched into Jerusalem unopposed and appointed the Goy Herod as king around 37 BCE. Herod the Idumean a non Jew, Pompey appointed as king. This marked a crucial transition towards Roman hegemony and set the stage for future conflicts and the eventual emergence of early Xtianity within this tumultuous context.

        This controversy escalated into the Maimonidean Controversies (1232–1305), involving bans and counter-bans across Europe. The Rambam’s philosophy risked eroding the mystical and ethical dimensions of Torah. This mirrors the Torah’s negative commandment against foreign worship (Shemot 20:3–5), extended to intellectual idolatry—assimilating Greek logos over prophetic mussar. Just as Xtianity and Islam universalize and supplant their “monotheistic God” detached from Israel’s election, the Rambam’s code likewise imposes a static halacha alien to the living Oral Torah common law פרדס inductive logic expressed through middot models.

        In Hilchot Melachim u’Milchamot 8:10–11, he posits these seven laws—prohibitions against idolatry, blasphemy, murder, theft, sexual immorality, eating a limb from a living animal, and the command to establish courts—as binding on all humanity, enforceable by death for non-compliance. This universal framework echoes Christian and Islamic theologies of a singular, accessible God for all peoples, framing monotheism as a global imperative rather than Israel’s particular oath brit which תמיד מעשה בראשית through time-oriented Avot commandments creates the chosen Cohen people יש מאין – comparable to the Ger Tzeddik. Rambam elevates Noahide observance to grant non-Jews status as “chasidei umot ha’olam” (righteous of the nations) if accepted due to divine command, despite the limitation of the jurisdiction of Sanhedrin courts limited only to the boundaries of the Jewish State!

        The Aggada of mesechta Sanhedrin limits the 7 mitzvot bnai noach unto the gere toshav Goyim living within the borders of the land. Mesechta Baba Kama limits the exclusion of all legal rights to the Shomronim “new Israel impostors who “converted out of fear” just as did Herod; both mesechtot Sanhedrin and Baba Kama base their instruction on D’varim which instructs Israel to either give treif flesh to the ger toshav or sell that flesh to the Na’cree. Sanhedrin refers to the ger toshav as bnai noach. Whereas Baba Kama describes the despised “Samaritan charlatans” as Canaani.

        Rambam’s view assimilates a “universal God,” akin to Christianity’s Trinity or Islam’s Tawhid, violating the Torah’s distinction: HaShem’s Name is revealed solely through Israel’s brit (Shemot 6:3). He even praises Islam as non-idolatrous monotheism (Hilchot Teshuvah 3:7), while deeming Xtianity idolatrous, yet both alien religions equally share the av tuma universalist avoda zara ONE GOD abomination. This “monotheistic universalism” negates the Oral Torah’s focus on Israel’s role as or l’goyim through prophetic mussar.

        Xtianity defines prophesy as witchcraft fortune telling. Whereas the Koran declares that Allah sends prophets to all nations and those prophets speak the native tongue of the nations . The Arab nation being the last nation to receive its prophet’s warnings. This negates the prophet Yonah sent to Assyria! His mussar rebuked g’lut 10 tribes not the kingdom of Assyria whom the Babylonian empire almost immediately thereafter conquered. Rambam’s rationalism offers no mussar for suffering, paralleling the absent Jesus or Allah. His fiat halacha does not remotely compare to the Prosecution vs Defense courtroom setting which the Gemara models.

        Led by figures like Solomon ben Abraham of Montpellier, this ban was amplified by Rabbeinu Yonah Gerondi (d. 1263), who traveled to gather support, they viewed the Rambam’s integration of Aristotelian logic as a threat to traditional Torah study. Both the rabbeinu Yonah’s court in Spain and the common law school of Rashi/Tosafot in France placed a ban upon the Rambam’s assimilated to Greek/Roman legal customs: statute law halachic fiat codification which negated Oral Torah “commodity based” common law–much as does both the NT and Koran. Rabbeinu Yonah later repented after witnessing the Inquisition burn Rambam’s books in 1233 and after the Goyim torched all the Talmud found in France. He interpreted these “disasters” as divine retribution for his zeal. Nonetheless, the initial ban against the study of Greek philosophy stands in Yeshiva education unto this very day, as a bulwark against assimilation.

        For example a defining פרט to the previous paragraph’s כלל – Rambam’s perverted views on Noahide laws. The Rambam assimilated, a direct Torah negative commandment, and embraced the Xtian & Muslim theologies of God – framed as a Monotheistic Universal God; his Roman statute law halacha and Greek Aristotle philosophy clashes with the Talmud which teaches that only the 12 Tribes of Israel accepted the Written Torah at Sinai and the Oral Torah at Horev. The Rambam replaced the kabbalah of rabbi Akiva’s פרדס inductive dynamic logic with Aristotles static deductive logic – absolutely identical as did the Tzeddukim 1000 years previous during the Hanukkah Jewish Civil War.

        The Rambam, influenced by Aristotle’s Organon, employs deductive logic in his philosophical work: Moreh Nevuchim. There he reduces prophetic mussar perverted to intellectual perfection, much like his posok halacha of the av Mishna Chullin touching the אפיקורוס slaughter of animals as lacking knowledge and understanding of the true essence of Jewish teachings. The Rambam Greek philosophy prioritizes intellect as the highest human faculty. The Talmud by contrast instructs that יראת שמים serves as the foundation of faith. This Torah rebuke applied to the ערב רב – שאין להם יראת אלהים as the root cause of the Torah curse of Amalek throughout the generations.

        Just as the Tzeddukim denied resurrection and angels to align with Greek thought, Rambam reinterprets miracles and eschatology allegorically, clashing with Kabbalistic traditions like the Zohar. But the mitzva of Shabbat which forbids doing acts of wisdom known specifically as מלאכה and generally as time-oriented commandments! Doing מלאכה repressed through time-oriented commandment create מלאכים שברא יש מאין; based upon the precedent that Yaacov sent מלאכים unto his brother Esav and wrestled in turn with the מלאך of his brother!

        This substitution negates the tohor middot spirits animating the yetzer ha-tov, reducing Torah to intellectual exercise. Christianity’s logos (John 1:1) and Islam’s kalam theology similarly adopt Aristotelian deduction, supplanting Sinai’s inductive mussar. The bans by Rabbeinu Yonah and the French schools affirm: True Torah resists such assimilation, prioritizing Sanhedrin common law over codified fiat statute law. As a commodity based currency day & night different from fiat monopoly play-game board funny money so too and how much more so Torah common law/משנה תורה rejects fiat statute roman laws; which extend to intellectual idolatry—assimilating Greek logos over prophetic mussar.

        Hence in summation: The foundational critiques of the Xtian false messiah (JeZeus) and Muslim false prophet (Muhammad) revisionist theologies stand firm: Goyim who rejected the dual revelation of the Written Torah at Sinai and Oral Torah at Horev fabricated “New God” theologies to supplant the eternal oath alliance brit of Sinai. This Sinai oath brit/alliance alone cuts the faith of justice wherein HaShem dwells permanently through the spirits of tohor Oral Torah middot in the משל משכן of the Sinai revelation, interpreted by the נמשל yetzer ha-tov within the heart—as differentiated by the Torah language of kriyat Shema (“בכל לבבך/לבבכם”), per Rabbi Yehuda’s interpretation emphasizing the whole heart’s tohor intent.

        Rambam’s sh’iita assimilates Greco-Roman statute law as the basis\priority which defines his statute halacha which makes secondary the language of the Talmud which his code translates into Hebrew. Common law – no translation can duplicate – because common law requires precedents. Rambam’s code relies upon foreign imports of Greek syllogism deductive logic which lacks the means to inductively compare ever changing halacha based upon ever changing life conditions throughout the generations. Just as the bible translations of בראשית fail to account for the רמזים of ב’ ראשית, ברית אש, and ראש בית, so too and how much more so static fiat halachic codes fail to employ Gemara halachot as precedents whereby scholarship through the generations can re-interpret the language of the Mishna based upon different perspectives suitable for the times and generations.

        The Rambam’s sh’itta assimilates Greco-Roman statute law and Aristotelian philosophy as a replacement for פרדס logic. The Torah משל of straw required to make bricks finds its נמשל in inductive logical comparison to interpret k’vanna of time-oriented mitzvot, defining Torah מלאכה wisdom, which the Rambam totally failed to grasp much less prioritize and understand. The downfall of the ‘Golden Age of Spain’ resulted from Jewish assimilation/intermarriage.

        Torah “idolatry” (a gross erroneous translation) far exceeds Goyim’s graven images (mocked derisively by Nevi’im). It encompasses any Jewish assimilation where Jews abandon the sealed mesorah culture and customs of the chosen Cohen people—T’NaCH, Talmud, Siddur—and favor/approve of Goyim cultures, customs, and intermarriage with those rejecting Sinai’s brit, like have themselves. This forsakes the 3 oaths sworn by the Avot to father the chosen Cohen seed and rejects the yoke of Heaven’s kingdom in tefillah, where tefillin oaths affirm Written and Oral Torah revelations.

        Assimilated Rishonim scholarship on T’NaCH/Talmud/Midrashim failed to arouse Jews to reconquer the homeland, unlike Herzl’s political Zionism (“Der Judenstaat”) and Ahad Ha’am’s cultural Zionism in his essay “The Jewish State and the Jewish Problem” (1897/98), which critiqued purely political approaches for neglecting spiritual/cultural revival. A millennium after the Hanukkah Civil War against Tzeddukim assimilation, the Rambam Civil War produced the “Mishneh Torah”—a statute law fiat codex. By logical דיוק contrasts with Israel performs mitzvot l’shmah raised the Menorah lights of victory over the Erev Rav Tzeddukim and foreign counter-cultures. Galut Jewry, cursed by the Torah’s galut decree (Vayikra 26, Devarim 28), lacks yetzer ha-tov tohor middot dominance to observe commandments l’shmah. The off the דרך Orthodox Judaism confuses the 3 vows: 1. Not to Attempt to Conquer the Land 2. Not to Rebel Against the Nations 3. God Will Bring Them Back prioritized over the 3 oaths sworn by the Avot which eternally create the chosen Cohen people through time oriented מלאכה חכמה. This mesechta of Ketubot simply does not supersede the Torah obligation to conquer the land. Moshe qualifies as the av model of Moshiach, and he did not general the war by which Israel fought multiple wars to conquer Canaan!

        This off-the-derech galut statute-law assimilated Judaism culminated in “Berlin is our new Jerusalem,” duplicating the Wilderness generation’s rebellion—refusing to conquer Canaan from fear of giants, absolutely no different from the prophetic mussar where the Shomronim converted for fear of lions or Herod’s “inquisition like” convertion – for fear of his life. Rambam’s fiat halachic משל currency counterfeit fails to “weave” halachic ritualism which requires no k’vanna together as with “gold” aggadic prophetic mussar as the time-oriented commandment k’vanna which makes aliya of secondary commandment to Av time-oriented commandments and results in the garments worn by the chosen Cohen people נמשל to the Cohen garments worn by Aaron and his sons משל.

        Roman “fiat currency” statute law—concise authoritative rulings without disputes—forms the basis of Middle Ages Roman Catholic Church Canon Law. The Rambam code duplicates Catholic dogmatism and Islamic Sharia fiqh compilations. Rabbeinu Yonah (d. 1263, relative of Ramban) amplified the agitation in Provence/Spain, viewing Aristotelian integration as Hellenistic corruption akin to Tzeddukim. The French school’s Tosafist precedent pilpul denounced Rambam’s declarative style omitting sources/debates, much as NT/Koran omit Sinai context for “new covenant” or “final prophet” substitute theology/revisionist history. All Torah prophets command mussar. Torah prophets not required to speak in Goyim languages because Goyim never accept to this very day the revelation of the Torah at Sinai & Horev.

        The Rambam’s gross error in the Av Mishna of Chullin matched by his equally stupid error in Kiddushin wherein his halacha declares, ignorant of the Gemarah רבוי מיעט-קמ”ל which excludes young girls as fit for the mitzva of kiddushin, just as the Av Mishna excludes Chuppa; or his halachot of Shabbat which fails to distinguish between the two verbs מלאכה כנגד עבודה. As commodity-based currency (day/night value) differs from fiat monopoly funny money, so too—and infinitely more so—Torah common law/Mishneh Torah rejects fiat Roman statute law Caesar decrees which forcibly expelled Jews from Judea and resulted in an 2000+ year Jewish g’lut which the Rambam code grossly emulates.

        Assimilated Rambam and his rabbinic ilk directly compare to the disaster of Herod! This disgraceful Civil War serves as proof that g’lut Jewry in those dreadful days – totally failed to due t’shuva. The shame of this disgrace compares to the betrayal of the British White Paper and FDR closing the borders of the Golden Medina to Jewish refugees attempting to flee from Nazi sub-human barbarians. Match only by the cold-blooded Allied calculation which sacrificed the Jewish people upon the Goyim altar of war – their refusal to bomb the Nazi rail lines which lead to the Death Camps.

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        David your response framed as a personal message of encouragement and prayer. Alas it does not engage deeply or even directly with the specific theological, historical or textual critiques raise in my two most recent denunciations of both Xtianity and Islam as new god frauds.

        Instead you pivot & affirm core Xtian evangelist propaganda seeking to convert me to your “good news gospel”. First, let’s stand on the same foundation or page. We do not share the same concept of faith. You believe in your new God JeZeus. I am an atheist to this belief. You like all other Goyim reject the revelation of the Torah at Sinai. Only Israel to this day accepts the revelation of the Torah at Sinai. For you, your God lives in the heavens above. For me HaShem, through his tohor middot lives only within the Yatzir Ha-Tov within the hearts of the Chosen Cohen people living on this Earth below. Post Sinai, Torah lives only in this Earth and not in Heaven. Hence no such Word of God vs. Word of Man bipolar psychosis.

        While the Book of Daniel part of the Holy Writings of the NaCH, Daniel a mystic not a prophet. NaCH prophets command mussar. I honestly doubt you have any idea what mussar means. In point of fact if you did – it would utterly and totally shock and amaze me. Why? Because very few Yeshiva educated Jews understand the wisdom of מלאכה מצוות. Your Book of Revelations resembles the Book of Daniel. We Jews follow the kabbalah of the Zohar’s mysticism and utterly reject the NT Roman forgery fraud.

        I personally, since you go to this great trouble of addressing me, Colossians 1:9-23, view Paul as a Jewish agent provocateur; sent first to Damascus to undermine Jews who believed the Roman NT propaganda and then to Rome to promote a monotheism shatter the ethical containment force of Roman polytheistic society.

        You make no mention of my arguments. Such as the Shoah/Nakba references, distinctions between Torah common law and Roman statute law, critiques of Jesus’ genealogy, the mitzvah of Moshiach, korbanot, k’vanna, Sanhedrin courts, or the rejection of universal monotheism. It ignores Islam entirely, focusing solely on Xtian themes.

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        Mosckerr,

        I will soon be 93 years old and know my days left on this Earth are numbered. I know our worldviews are far apart and have no expectations of converting you to mine. I believe “12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.” That is why I send you what I believe to be the truth.

        I’m truly hopeful the Lord will open your mind to the truth. I have zero interest in the “Shoah/Nakba references” and choose not to waste any of the time I have left in studying them. I believe Israel is at the point described in Ezekiel 37: 7-8 “So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I prophesied, there was a sound, and behold, a rattling, and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8 And I looked, and behold, there were sinews on them, and flesh had come upon them, and skin had covered them. But there was no breath in them.”

        My prayer for you is for you to regain spiritual life but to do that, you must be born again by faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior! 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”

        In Christs Love,
        David

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        I’m 67. As an atheist – praise HaShem – Xtian theological belief systems or Muslim belief systems have no portion with either the T’NaCH or Talmud. Your or mine personal ages do not change anything.

        2nd paragraph. Your God aint the God of Sinai. Your bible translations never once bring the name revealed in Sinai of the local tribal god of Israel. Attempts to translate the שם השם Spirit to any words – defines the sin of the Golden Calf. This avoda zara an utter abomination. Furthermore its clear as the Sun in the sky that you do not grasp that All T’NaCH prophets command mussar and only mussar. T’NaCH does not teach history; its aggadic stories of “way back when” teach mussar and only mussar – not history.

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        Being 67 tells me you have yet to discover the impact aging will have on perception.

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        Joint aches and pains and mistakes errors and injuries in my youth I feel every day now 🙂

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        Look up my essay, “A Surprising Discovery” and let me know what you think.

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        send it to me I only saw “Alien invasion …” and lost interest.

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        Use the search function and type it in.

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        A Surprising Discovery!

        Try that one.

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        So your satisfied with your life. Very nice.

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        The God of Peace has been with me all my life.
        4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand; 6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

        8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. 9 What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me—practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.

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        As an atheist of your God, nonetheless peace is good – whatever that noun means. Shalom does not correctly translate as “peace”. Shalom a verb which stands upon the basis of “trust”. No trust No shalom. Its a rather simple verb – shalom.

        NT religious rhetoric propaganda which declare their version of 72 virgins called by pie in the sky names like peace and wholeness and joy, and reflection on positive attributes etc etc etc has zero connection to the blood libels, host desecration slanders, taxation w/o representation, ghetto gulag imprisonment of all Western European Jewry for 3 Centuries, the utter poverty Goyim imposed upon Jews which culminated in the Shoah which murdered 75% of Western European Jewry in less than 3 years through the British White Paper and FDR closure of the Golden Medina’s borders to Jews attempting to flee death and the Allies adamant refusal to bomb the rail lines which transported Jews to the Nazi Death Camps followed up by the post war Xtian rat-lines which concealed Nazi war criminals from justice.

        “By their fruit you shall know them”. This NT rebuke defines the whole of Xtianity’s belief in its God abomination. The culture of Torah rejects the church concept of repentance as regret and sorrow for sin – used as a justification to believe in its false messiah Harry Potter fictional imaginary man whom the church declares as God.

        My parents taught me: “Its easier to be a critic than a play-write”. The Torah concept of t’shuva utterly revolted by the Xtian rhetoric of “repentance for sin”. The oath brit alliance learn t’shuva as bound like Yitzak upon the altar to “remember”. We Jews “remember” that the Xtian church destroyed its “Good Name reputation with all its abominations and injustice that make even Par’o blush. The Torah term “fear of Heaven”, which Goyim simply love to jabber jabber jabber, understood as “Baal Shem Tov”/Master of the Good Name. By their fruits you shall know them … has sealed the reputation of the dead religion known as Xtianity.

        Torah culture which defines the customs and practices of the Jewish chosen Cohen people utterly repulsed by the Goyim religious rhetoric propaganda they call “Faith”. Our culture as defined by Torah common law defines faith not as belief in theological lies about Trinity Gods first declared after the Nicene Council of 325. The verb “faith” rests upon the foundation of pursuit of justice in this world. Just that simple no fancy dancing. Post Shoah Jews have sworn a Torah oath: Never Again. Meaning never again shall European Goyim together with their religious belief in their new strange Gods determine THEIR “Jewish Problem”.

        Hence Israel fundamentally rejects UN SC Resolution 242, 338, 446, 2334 etc etc etc (the movie: The King and I) as Great Power imperialism; Europe nor its dead God church religion, determines the borders and Capital of the Jewish state in Israel. Palestine (Arabs cannot pronounce the European word, specifically the letter P.) that League of Nations mandated territory – based solely upon the 1917 Balfour Declaration – Britain’s willingness to partner with Jews to establish a Jewish National Home in “Palestine”, that transferred mandate to the post WWII UN “protectorate territory” wholly ceased to exist in 1948.

        Pursuit of righteous judicial justice among my people shares less than nothing with Xtian belief in their pie in the sky theologically created NT Gods in Heaven. Post Sinai Torah not in Heaven. The local tribal god of Sinai lives through the spirits of the Oral Torah within the Yatzir Tov within the hearts of Jewish chosen Cohen people from Sinai till today and all eternity. Your God JeZeus taught his disciples to pray to their Father in Heaven. Torah rejects the Xtian translation of tefillah as meaning prayer. Tefillah does not pray to any God in Heaven, tefillah dedicated (like a korban) tohor middot spirits revealed to Moshe at Horev – 40 days after the Sin of the Golden Calf.

        This Torah revelation of av tuma avoda zara vomits & retches upon the church pie in the sky notions of idolatry. The 2nd Sinai commandment: not to worship other Gods — despises the Universal Monotheistic theology of ONE GOD. The 10 plagues of Egypt judged the Gods of both Egypt and later Canaan. The prophet Yehoshua cut the oath alliance at Gilgal – just as the local tribal god who spirits breath within the Yatzir Ha-Tov within only the bnai brit chosen Cohen people hearts (Only the 12 tribes of Israel accept the revelation of the Divine Presence spirits revealed in the 1st Sinai commandment.) judged the Gods of Egypt so too this same Earth-bound Divine spirits would judge the Gods of Canaan.

        Jews remember this oath sworn and recorded by the NaCH Book of Judges when we place Rashi tefillen and/or Rabbeinu Tam tefillen (which remembers the oath sworn by the chosen Cohen people at Sh’Cem) prior to accepting the Yoke of the kingdom of heaven/the mitzva of kre’a shma — the Torah vision of tefillah understood as a matter of the heart.

        Pigs cannot squeeze through the eye of a needle … a summation of the conflict and betrayal of Xtian European pie in the sky NT belief systems of theology. The spirituality of the NT church – I am an atheist praise God. LOL

        The Chosen Cohonim atheists do not believe in any God in Heaven post the Sinai revelation of Divine Spirits middot. Most specifically we do not believe in any 2nd coming of the NT false messiah JeZeus. The mitzva of Moshiach learns directly from the mitzva of Shabbat. Just as all generations of Jews can sanctify shabbat so too and how much more so Jews can pursue justice in this world among our own people – the mitzva of Moshiach from the Torah!

        Torah/Talmud\Siddur – this sealed masoret excludes the NT and Xtian bible which makes no mention of Oral Torah middot revealed to Moshe 40 days after assimilated and intermarried Israelites “translated” spirit middot unto the word Elohim. The NT and Koran do the same with their ‘word of God’ Bibles and Koran through their theological translations of Lord or Allah. Sinai Divine Spirit middot no word can translate because middot spirits simply not words – that the gospel of John declares otherwise – represents a Xtian theological problem not part of the Jewish pursuit of making fair restitution of damages by which the Torah defines justice as Torah faith.

        After 1948 Jews exposed the Xtian slander and lies which publicly declared like their God profaned Shabbat before the Pharisees, that Jews forever cursed Christ-Killers forced to wander the Earth as despised refugees without a nation of their own. Now the shoe worn on the other foot post Shoah. The Xtian church of Europe and America has permanently destroyed their ‘good name reputations’.

        A person who understands fear of heaven grasps that his or her actions directly and permanently enhance or stain their reputations. A reputation compares to a balloon floating across a huge field of cactus. Pop! And the reputation permanently destroyed.

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        I’m sure you do the best you can with your available resources.

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        Thank you David. This conversation has caused me to clarify how I understand the Torah.

        Torah: The rejection of av tuma avoda zara.

        As an atheist to the NT and Koran Gods, nonetheless peace is “good” – whatever that noun means. Shalom does not correctly translate as “peace”. Shalom a verb, which stands upon the basis of “trust”. No trust No shalom. Its a rather simple verb – shalom.

        NT & Koran religious rhetoric propaganda which declare their separate versions of 72 virgins of paradise. Pie in the sky rhetoric names: like peace and wholeness and joy, and reflection on positive attributes etc etc etc has zero connection to the blood libels, host desecration slanders, taxation w/o representation, ghetto gulag imprisonment of all Western European Jewry for 3 Centuries & dhimmi racism. The utter poverty Goyim imposed upon Jews which culminated in the Shoah, which murdered 75% of Western European Jewry in less than 3 years through the British White Paper and FDR closure of the Golden Medina’s borders to Jews attempting to flee death, and the Allies adamant refusal to bomb the rail lines which transported Jews to the Nazi Death Camps; followed up by the post war Xtian rat-lines which concealed Nazi war criminals from justice. Opposed by the Arab failure to throw the Jews into the Sea and complete the Nazi Shoah marks both religious theologies as av tuma false avoda zara.

        “By their fruits you shall know them”. This NT rebuke defines the whole of Xtianity’s & Islam’s beliefs in their respective God abominations. The culture of Torah rejects the church & mosque concept of repentance – as regret and sorrow for sin – used as a justification to believe in its false messiah Harry Potter fictional imaginary man whom the church declares as God. Or the notion that Ishmael, who rejected the revelation of the Torah at Sinai, would receive a “prophet who speaks in the Arabic tongue” as the Koran declares – as utterly false.

        My parents taught me: “Its easier to be a critic than a play-write”. The Torah concept of t’shuva utterly revolted by the Xtian rhetoric of “repentance for sin”. The oath brit alliance learn t’shuva as bound like Yitzak upon the altar to “remember”. We Jews “remember” that both the Xtian church & mosque destroyed their “Good Name reputation with all their abominations and injustice that make even Par’o blush. The Torah term “fear of Heaven”, which Goyim simply love to jabber jabber jabber, Torah understands as “Baal Shem Tov”/Master of the Good Name. By their fruits you shall know them … has sealed the reputation of these dead religions known as Xtianity & Islam.

        Torah culture which defines the customs and practices of the Jewish chosen Cohen people through the sealed masoret of T’NaCH, Talmud & Siddur, utterly repulsed by the Goyim religious rhetoric propaganda they call “Faith”. Our culture as defined by Torah common law defines “faith” not as belief in theological lies about Trinity Gods first declared after the Nicene Council of 325, or later as Tawhid. The verb “faith” rests upon the foundation of pursuit of justice in this world. Just that simple no fancy dancing. Post Shoah Jews have sworn a Torah oath: Never Again. Meaning never again shall Goyim in general, and European Goyim in particular, together with their religious belief in their new strange Gods determine THEIR “Jewish Problem”. No European or Muslim court ever forced the leaders of their avoda zara religions to stand before the Bar for THEIR war crimes.

        Hence Israel fundamentally rejects UN SC Resolution 242, 338, 446, 2334 etc etc etc (the movie: The King and I) as Great Power imperialism; Europe nor its dead God church religion, determines the borders and Capital of the Jewish state in Israel. Palestine (Arabs cannot pronounce the European word, specifically the letter P.) that League of Nations originally mandated territory – based solely upon the 1917 Balfour Declaration – Britain’s willingness to partner with Jews to establish a Jewish National Home in “Palestine”; that transferred mandate to the post WWII UN switched from Mandate to “protectorate territory” — wholly ceased to exist in 1948. All Arab wars fought to invade and destroy Israel based upon their rejection of the Balfour Declaration which culminated in the League of Nations original Palestine mandate to establish a Jewish National Home in Palestine, all Arab wars against the Jewish State have rejected Jews have equal rights to achieve self-determination. This rejection of equal rights resulted in the expulsion of 800,000 Jewish refugees from Arab countries, and the Arab leadership which commanded Arabs ‘to get out of the way of advancing Arab Armies coming to throw the Jews into the Sea’.

        Pursuit of righteous judicial justice among my people shares less than nothing with Xtian or Muslim beliefs in their pie in the sky theologically created NT/Koran Gods in Heaven. Post Sinai Torah not in Heaven. The local tribal god of Sinai lives through the spirits of the Oral Torah within the Yatzir Tov within the hearts of Jewish chosen Cohen people from Sinai till today and all eternity. These Gods JeZeus & Allah: the “prophet” JeZeus taught his disciples to pray to their Father in Heaven. Torah rejects the Greek translation of tefillah as meaning prayer. Tefillah does not pray to any God in Heaven, tefillah dedicated (like a korban) tohor middot spirits revealed to Moshe at Horev – 40 days after the Sin of the Golden Calf.

        This Torah revelation of golden calf av tuma avoda zara vomits & retches upon the church\mosque pie in the sky notions of idolatry. The 2nd Sinai commandment: not to worship other Gods — despises the Universal Monotheistic theology of ONE GOD. The 10 plagues of Egypt judged the Gods of both Egypt and later Canaan. The prophet Yehoshua cut the oath alliance at Gilgal – just as the local tribal god who spirits breath within the Yatzir Ha-Tov within only the bnai brit chosen Cohen people hearts (Only the 12 tribes of Israel accept the revelation of the Divine Presence spirits revealed in the 1st Sinai commandment.) judged the Gods of Egypt, so too this same Earth-bound Divine spirits would judge the Gods of Canaan. Neither NT or Koran once refer to the revelation of the שם השם which forever dwells in this Earth and not in the heavens through tohor middot spirits. Their notions of World to Come – religious rhetoric. Torah through the brit cut between the pieces defines “World to Come” as the future born Cohen seed of the Avot who live and breath tohor spirit middot within their Yatzir Ha-Tov – on this Earth.

        Jews remember this oath sworn and recorded by the NaCH Book of Judges when we place Rashi tefillen and/or Rabbeinu Tam tefillen (which remembers the oath sworn by the chosen Cohen people at Sh’Cem) prior to accepting the Yoke of the kingdom of heaven/the mitzva of kre’a shma — the Torah vision of tefillah understood as a matter of the heart. The k’vanna of this time-oriented commandment wherein time refers to מלאכה חכמה: To remember the 3 oaths sworn by the Avot to father the chosen Cohen people in O’lam Ha-Bah, also known as the mitzva of קידושין; and לשמה accept the Written and Oral Torah revelations as ONE brit yoke of the kingdom of Heaven. Tefillah דרבנן stands upon the foundation of tefillah דאורייתא קריא שמע, like shalom stands upon the foundation of trust. The Torah oath remembered, originally cut at Sh’Cem, remembers that our forefathers swore only to do avodat HaShem in a tohor condition. Muslims don’t eat pork, but the camel precedes pigs in the classification of tuma animals.

        Neither Camel nor pigs can squeeze through the eye of a needle … a summation of the conflict and betrayal of Xtian European and Arab Muslim pie in the sky NT\Koran belief systems of theology. The spirituality of the NT/Koran “church” – I am an atheist praise God. These foreign alien “new Gods” never caused the hair on my forefathers forearms to stand at attention due to fear and dread.

        The Chosen Cohonim atheists do not believe in any God in Heaven post the Sinai revelation of Divine Spirits – middot. Most specifically we do not believe in any 2nd coming of the NT false messiah JeZeus or Muhammad lived as a Torah prophet. T’NaCH prophets command mussar. Mussar grows within the Yatzir Ha-Tov hearts of the chosen Cohen people who alone accept the revelation of the Torah at Sinai and Horev, in all generations. The mitzva of Moshiach learns directly from the mitzva of Shabbat. Just as all generations of Jews can sanctify shabbat so too and how much more so Jews can pursue justice in this world among our own people – the mitzva of Moshiach from the Torah directly learns from the blood on king David’s hands – his failure to establish Sanhedrin common law Federal courts which would judge the Capital Crime Case of the death of Uriah the Hittite. His son Shlomo pursued building a house of wood and stone rather than prioritized the Torah Constitutional mandate of Sanhedrin common law lateral Federal courts. Justice has no connection whatsoever with copying the customs and practices of how Goyim worship their Gods by building Grand Temples and Cathedrals.

        Torah/Talmud\Siddur – this sealed masoret excludes the NT and Xtian bible or Muslim Koran, which makes no mention of Oral Torah middot spirits revealed to Moshe 40 days after assimilated and intermarried ערב רב Israelites “translated” spirit middot unto the word Elohim. The NT and Koran do the same with their ‘word of God’ Bibles and Koran through their theological translations of Lord or Allah. Sinai Divine Spirit middot no word can translate because middot spirits simply not words – that the gospel of John declares otherwise – represents a Xtian theological problem. Such theological rhetoric propaganda – not part of the Jewish pursuit of making fair restitution of damages by which the Torah defines justice as Torah faith in the Earth below rather than the Heavens above.

        The angelic Divine Names: Ya, Ha-El, El, Elohim, El Shaddai, Eish Ha-Elohim, and Shalom. This Menorah multiple faceted souls dedicated on the Yom Tov and Shabbat compare to the living blood dedicated upon the altar. Hence the halacha permits eating flesh of liver cooked in a pan because such blood – not living blood. Each day of shabbat dedicates a different Spirit soul which separates and defines the Yatzir Ha-Tov in this Earth during the mitzva of tefillah. Tefilla stands upon the משל\נמשל vessels of the Mishkan. Primary/secondary-Substance\form–Avot\/toldot mitzvot – calls טיפש פשט any literal “historical” rather than “mussar” reading of the Mishkan; equal to the literal “historical” reading of the בראשית Creation story. The נמשל of the latter – time-oriented Av commandments explains the kabbala why the Israel watch reads בראשית during the dedication of korbanot.

        After 1948 Jews exposed the Xtian slander and lies which publicly declared – like their God publicly profaned Shabbat before the Pharisees by doing acts of מלאכה which the Greek tongue does not discern from עבודה – that Jews forever cursed Christ-Killers forced to wander the Earth as despised refugees without a nation of their own. Now the shoe worn on the other foot — post Shoah. The Xtian church of Europe and America has permanently destroyed their ‘good name reputations’. And post ’48 and ’67 Arabs wonder the Earth as despised refugees who have no legal rights – not in Arab lands nor in Israel. Justice remembers that ghetto & dhimmi Jews had little or no legal rights during our g’lut from the לשמה מצוות holy lands.

        A person who understands fear of heaven grasps that his or her actions directly and permanently enhance or stain their reputations. A reputation compares to a balloon floating across a huge field of cactus. Pop! And the reputation permanently destroyed. Just as integrity and pursuit of righteous justice among my people in the land of Israel impact all future born generations, so too and equally opposite — Xtian and Muslim theologies shape the life and destiny of foreign alien Goyim in distant lands, and their faith in how they believe in their Gods.

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        1 Corinthians 1:18 (NKJV): “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.”

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        The quote from 1 Corinthians 1:18—“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God”—reflects a fundamental theological perspective of Christianity that contrasts sharply with the views expressed in my earlier text about Jews and their understanding of faith, justice, and divinity.

        Torah prophets Shmuel rebuke king Shaul after he failed to kill the king of Amalek by saying HaShem prefers obedience to sacrifices. The “message of the cross” represents the central tenet of Xtian belief in JeZeus’ sacrificial death, openly negates the commandment given to the prophet that HaShem had rejected king Shaul as Moshiach! Hence this quote from Corinthians serves as a proclamation of faith by Xtians, it reflects av tumah avoda zara practices.

        Israel came out of Egyptian bondage to eternally pursue righteous judicial justice. The Goyim never to this day accept the revelation of the Torah at Sinai. The NT & Koran exist as replacement theology and revisionist history. Judicial justice simply not a passive belief system. Just that simple. No fancy dance’n. Jews control the gates of our enemies, like HaShem posted Angelic guards protecting the way back to the Tree of Life. No passive acceptance of salvation through faith in the cross remotely qualifies as Torah “fear of Heaven”.

        This quote from 1 Corinthians 1:18 can be interpreted as reinforcing the perception that Christian theology is fundamentally disconnected from Jewish principles of justice and integrity. NT emphasis upon supernatural intervention for salvation versus the Jewish focus on righteous actions and ethical laws as the Way, qualifies as substitute theology.

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        Mosckerr,

        3 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? 4 Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? 5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

        7 Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” 9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.
        The Righteous Shall Live by Faith

        10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” 12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
        The Law and the Promise

        15 To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

        19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. 20 Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.

        21 Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. 22 But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

        23 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. 24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.3 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? 4 Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? 5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

        7 Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” 9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.
        The Righteous Shall Live by Faith

        10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” 12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
        The Law and the Promise

        15 To give a human example, brothers:[f] even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

        19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. 20 Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.

        21 Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. 22 But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

        23 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. 24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

        David

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        That passage is Paul’s core anti-Torah manifesto. Galatians is not “spiritual reflection”; it’s polemic warfare, written to non-Jewish converts who were drifting toward Torah observance under Jewish influence. Paul is furious—and the rhetoric shows it.

        “O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you?”
        That’s not theology; that’s damage control.

        Paul’s central move (the sleight of hand)

        Paul constructs a false binary:“Works of the Law” = flesh, curse, bondage, failure. “Faith” = spirit, freedom, righteousness, life. This binary does not exist in Torah. It is a Greek philosophical import, not a Sinai category.

        In Torah: Emunah ≠ belief; Faith ≠ mental assent; Tz’dakah ≠ forensic justification.

        Paul redefines all three to detach Abraham from Sinai and hand him over to the Gentile world. Paul quotes:

        “And Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”

        But Torah never treats this as: belief instead of action; faith instead of covenant; spirit instead of mitzvah. Abraham: acted (lech lecha); judged (Sodom); bound (Akedah); commanded his household in justice (Gen 18:19). Paul amputates Abraham before brit milah, freezes him in Gen 15, and says:
        That’s the real Abraham. Everything after that is surplus. That’s not pshat, drash, remez, or sod.
        It’s replacement theology by timeline manipulation.

        “The Law was a curse” — the most radical claim: Paul states explicitly: “All who rely on works of the law are under a curse.” This is not an interpretation of Torah. It is a direct negation of Devarim. Torah says:“You shall live by them”; “They are your wisdom”; “Choose life”. Paul flips it: Torah = prison; Torah = curse; Torah = babysitter until Christ shows up. This is why Judaism never treated Christianity as “another interpretation.” It’s a theological inversion.

        “Cursed is everyone hung on a tree” — weaponized citation. Paul uses Deut 21:23 to argue: JeZeus became the curse of the Law to redeem you from the Law.

        In Torah: Hanging is a post-execution disgrace, not redemptive. Curse attaches to the criminal, not to those obeying Torah. Paul does something unprecedented: He turns curse into salvation; turns execution into sacrament; turns failure into cosmic victory.

        From a Torah lens, this is not paradox—it’s avodah zarah logic just that simple. No fancy rhetoric propaganda. “Neither Jew nor Greek” — erasure disguised as unity: This line is often sold as moral progress.

        From a Torah perspective, it’s identity annulment. Torah justice is particular, not abstract: distinct peoples, distinct oath alliances, distinct obligations. Paul’s universalism solves Gentile anxiety by abolishing difference, not by honoring the Avot oath alliance wherein HaShem choses the chosen Cohen people fathered by the Avot together with the boundaries of the oath sworn land inheritance.

        “No Jew, no Greek” → means no Sinai, no brit, no chosen obligation. That’s why Jews experience this text as violent, not merely wrong. Galatians is Xtianity’s anti-Jewish keystone text. It says, in plain terms: Torah is obsolete. Jewish law is bondage. Jewish continuity is a mistake. Goyim inherit Abraham without Sinai. Jews who keep Torah are spiritually regressive,

        When anyone quotes Galatians at a Jew, the subtext is: You are clinging to a curse. We’ve moved on.

        Bottom line (Torah frame): Torah never opposed law vs spirit. Torah never opposed action vs trust.
        Torah never needed a human sacrifice to fix the oath alliance that the Avot would father the chosen Cohen people. Yom Kippur stands as an eternal witness to this Torah oath – never annulled as the NT rhetoric propaganda falsely claims. Torah never promised salvation through belief. Torah never left the Earth for Heaven.

        Paul’s project only works if: Sinai is provisional; Justice is impossible; Action fails; Memory is replaced by belief; however Judaism rejects all four.

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        Time will tell.

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        Cannot simply quote NT passages and ignore reality as if facts on the ground do not exist.

        Time has already ruled and judgment sealed. For 2000 years the church slandered Jews as Christ-Killers forever cursed to wander the Earth as stateless refugees. But in 1948, and even more decisively in June 1967 Jews reconquered our Homeland.

        Later the EU attempted to write a Constitution and made zero reference to Xtianity! Post Shoah the destroyed good name reputation of the Church now the stateless refugee across Europe. The church wears the shoes of Cain in Europe.

        The 1956 War witnessed the collapse of Great Britain and France as ‘great power states’; both empires saw the total collapse of their empires!

        Still in 1967, LBJ tied down in Vietnam, the UK and France sought to negate the Israei shock total victory in just 6 Days! They introduced what became the chief load stone of UN anti-Israel propaganda – UN SC Resolution 242.

        The Abraham Accords shot a nail into the heart of 242 which killed the Quartet domination of the Middle East “balance of Power” equation.

        Then exploded the Oct 7th Abomination War, and the UN, Britain, and France and Russia experienced a major down grading of the measure of their influence across the Middle East and North Africa.

        Europe the Heart of the Church – totally dead. Trump’s America First means that the US pulling out of NATO at best or totally down grading its domination over NATO at worst! This move permits Putin to save face and end the Ukraine war because Nato without the US … just an empty paper tiger.

        A critical fact, because two European great powers both tried and failed to invade and conquer Russia through the flat plains of the Ukraine. Nato without America first US – not a serious threat to Russia, even if the Ukarine betrays the post WWII agreements that FDR and Stalin made.

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        Events in the world today are consistent with Bible prophecy.

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        Pie in the sky witchcraft. The T’NaCH defines prophesy as ‘commandments of mussar’. Why? Mussar applies straight across the board to all generations of the chosen Cohen people. Only Israel accepted and accepts the Torah revelation at Sinai. Avoda zara av tumah religion “believe” that their Universal God(s) dwell in the Heavens. Whereas the revelation of the Torah at Sinai HaShem – a local tribal god – lives only within the Yatzir Ha-Tov of the chosen Cohen people alone, within our hearts.

        No such משל משכן divine tohor spirits, which reflect the eternal HaShem t’shuva following the sin of the Golden Calf, live in the hearts of Goyim. Why? Because to this very day, all Goyim reject the revelation of the Torah at Sinai which instructs the mussar that the Torah revelation of the Name “HaShem —- (This word means ‘the Name’, not the actual tohor spirits which Moshe orally heard at Horev on Yom Kippur, which the Talmud refers to as רוח הקודש.) —– acceptance of the Earth spirits Name לשמה, Goyim have never accepted. The av tuma avoda zara books of bibles and korans all universally fail to include the Name of the Sinai local tribal god.

        Prophesy לא לשמה – false prophet lies.

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        Now let’s prove my instruction to you: You say “events in the world today etc”, but have made no attempt whatsoever to prove your grand speculations religious rhetoric. Prove it.

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        Acts 15:22-41 (ESV) discusses the early Christian church’s response to the question of whether Gentile believers should be required to follow Jewish law. Goyim, neither their av tuma bible/koran never once bring the tohor spirits revealed in the first commandment name of the local god revealed at Sinai at the first commandment. Both av tuma religions of avoda zara declare that they worship some new Universal God monotheism. Both religions – totally oblivious that their individual theologies of “Monotheism”, do not jive with the judgment upon the Gods of Par’o and Canaan! That their new god(s) of Universal Monotheism violate the 2nd Sinai commandment.

        Both Xtianity and Islam – av tuma avoda zara worship of newly created through theological rhetoric New Gods respectively unique to each religious theological belief system of rhetoric propaganda. Neither, set of New God(s) universal monotheism ever discerns the fundamental Torah Sinai revelation which discerns the tohor local god’s spirits from the tuma spirits of all avoda zara gold calf Gods.

        The Sinai experience is central to Jewish identity. It represents the direct revelation of tohor divine spirits which live for all eternity within the Yatzir Ha-Tov hearts of the chosen Jewish Cohen people. Av tuma avoda zara by stark contrast preaches, screams and murders non believers of their Nicene Creed or Tawhid God(s) because Jews in particular directly “house” (revelation of the metaphor of the Mishkan) these 13 tohor spirits/Oral Torah middot spirits within our hearts. Hence Jews have always and forever denounced the false messiah and false prophet as av tuma avoda zara.

        Oral Torah described by the RambaN’s commentary to the Chumash as ”Black Fire on White Fire”. Something like the film negative which permits reproducing pictures or how a silk screen separates multiple different colors onto a fabric as art. Rabbi Akiva’s פרדס four part inductive reasoning best describes how the Oral Torah spirits interpret the Written Torah words. This kabbala of inductive reasoning totally different than ancient Greek syllogism deductive logic which has influenced and shaped Xtian and Muslim theology since the Muslims re-discovered the ancient Greek writings which the church concealed immediately after Constantine became Caesar and rejected the multiple polytheism Greek/Roman Gods in favor of Xtian theology which occurred about 900 CE.

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        Acts 15:22-41 (ESV) discusses the early Christian church’s response to the question of whether Gentile believers should be required to follow Jewish law. Goyim, neither their av tuma bible/koran never once bring the tohor spirits revealed in the first commandment name of the local god revealed at Sinai at the first commandment. Both av tuma religions of avoda zara declare that they worship some new Universal God monotheism. Both religions – totally oblivious that their individual theologies of “Monotheism”, do not jive with the judgment upon the Gods of Par’o and Canaan! That their new god(s) of Universal Monotheism violate the 2nd Sinai commandment.

        Both Xtianity and Islam – av tuma avoda zara worship of newly created through theological rhetoric New Gods respectively unique to each religious theological belief system of rhetoric propaganda. Neither, set of New God(s) universal monotheism ever discerns the fundamental Torah Sinai revelation which discerns the tohor local god’s spirits from the tuma spirits of all avoda zara gold calf Gods.

        The Sinai experience is central to Jewish identity. It represents the direct revelation of tohor divine spirits which live for all eternity within the Yatzir Ha-Tov hearts of the chosen Jewish Cohen people. Av tuma avoda zara by stark contrast preaches, screams and murders non believers of their Nicene Creed or Tawhid God(s) because Jews in particular directly “house” (revelation of the metaphor of the Mishkan) these 13 tohor spirits/Oral Torah middot spirits within our hearts. Hence Jews have always and forever denounced the false messiah and false prophet as av tuma avoda zara.

        Oral Torah described by the RambaN’s commentary to the Chumash as ”Black Fire on White Fire”. Something like the film negative which permits reproducing pictures or how a silk screen separates multiple different colors onto a fabric as art. Rabbi Akiva’s פרדס four part inductive reasoning best describes how the Oral Torah spirits interpret the Written Torah words. This kabbala of inductive reasoning totally different than ancient Greek syllogism deductive logic which has influenced and shaped Xtian and Muslim theology since the Muslims re-discovered the ancient Greek writings which the church concealed immediately

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        Tehillem כד serves as a Gemara-like commentary to the Mishna-like prophet זכריה ט:ט-י:ב. The name Zekharya spins around the verb “remember”. Upon this יסוד foundation stand the Torah vision of t’shuva. The vision of g’lut directly compares to Yosef thrown into a pit with no water but filled with snakes. Moshe sent as a מלאך to achieve the oath sworn to the Avot and bring the chosen Cohen people seed of the Avot into the oath sworn lands.

        But once in those lands the Yatzir Ha-Raw which provoked the brothers of Yosef to cast him into a pit and sell him to slavers, so too the Yatzir Ha-Raw tumah spirits in the oath sworn lands turned to terafim/תרפים … witchcraft sorcery/fortune tellers an even more nuanced understanding of hakos’mim. Witchcraft employed by the advisors of Par’o turned staffs into snakes and water into blood through tuma spirits. Sorcery specifically employs spells and supernatural powers like in voodoo. Predicting future events or revealing hidden knowledge another specific example of reliance upon the council of tuma Yatzir spirits within the heart.

        The tohor middot align with the Shemone Esrei blessings of מברך השנים – משען ומבטח לצדיקים. Oral Torah tohor spirits לשמה permanently affixed to the 13 middle blessings of the Shemone Esrei – tefillah a matter of the heart and not a plea to any Universal Monotheistic God in the Heavens above. This vision of Torah לא בשמים היא לשמה defines the revelation of the Torah at Sinai – the revelation of the name HaShem – stands apart from the Divine Names pre-Sinai. The Torah perceives the revelation of the first commandment spirit name to fire, like as the opening word of בראשית which contains the words within this word – רמז – ברית אש. False oaths, according to mesechta Sanhedrin, responsible for the floods of Noach!

        This vision of the unique revelation of the spirit middot of HaShem at Sinai defines the k’vanna of the Torah tefillah known as kre’a shma and the oath sworn by means of פרדס tefillen and tzitzit. Ideally a person covers his head with his tallit to remember the נמשל vision of the Mishkan משל; based upon the Torah precedent of a dead body within a tent makes all things inside the tent av tuma, the logical דיוק that covering ones’ head with the tallit elevates anything underneath the tallit “tent” as an av tohor time-oriented commandment.

        משנה תורה בנין אב: דברים יא:כב-כח a direct precedent which the Tehillim and minor prophet stand upon. The brit of responsibility known as Blessing-Curse directly compares to the knowledge of good & evil; HaShem chose the k’vanna of time oriented commandment over Cain’s positive commandment which he dedicated without k’vanna. The Book of בראשית introduces Av tohor time-oriented commandments עיין ה:לב -ו:ח in order to designate בראשית\ראש בית. The floods came as a result of HaShem permitted only Yatzir Ha-Raw spirits to dominate the hearts of those cursed generations of Man, on par with and no different from, the cursed Wilderness generation who died in g’lut/exile.

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        You have no understanding of the nature of the basic challenge you face; you are spiritually dead and desperately need to be born again to life in the family of God. This can be accomplished only by faith in Jesus Christ as Savior! I would be doing you a great disservice if I allowed myself to get involved in anything else.

        3 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” 3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

        9 Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?” 10 Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things? 11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

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        Shalom David,

        As a Post Shoah Israeli the idea of reviving a dead religion stinks. Xtianity now wears the shoes of Cain and wanders in exile waiting for the 2nd Coming of their Harry Potter false messiah God. Your core message of being born again simply a pie in the sky pie in your face joke. We Jews contrary to 2000+ years of Xtians screaming Jews are cursed, we rule once again our Homelands and Xtians rot in exile waiting for the second coming of their God. John 3:1-15 Nicodemus story means nothing to me. Why? Because the core substance of gospel faith of the return of JeZeus as false as can false can be.

        Torah common law restored in the land of Israel require that my generation, as Zionists, strives to make the Torah the written Constitution of our Republic of restored 12 Tribes. In Israel you encounter “Welcome to the Tribe of Shimon” like you see “Welcome to the State of Texas”. Dropping the Democracy bunk an up-hill struggle. A Republic not a democracy. The US Constitution no where once mentions the word democracy. The “democracy” replacement theology occurred post US Civil War imposed by the victorious Damned Yankees who despised States Rights.

        Your theological context, just a continuation of European Xtianity which abused my people till the American and French revolutions separated Church from State. Xtianity as dead as a door nail post Shoah. Jews have always told Xtians that their belief in JeZeus – a false messiah idol. You religion now rots and stinks in exile. Nothing you can write or say can change this hard cold fact till your Harry Potter false messiah makes a triumphant 2nd coming.

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      • davidbowerkingwood's avatar

        Mosckerr,

        Do you have access to a desktop computer? My website works much better on a desktop computer.

        David

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      • mosckerr's avatar

        David I have what I have

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      • davidbowerkingwood's avatar

        Nothing more than a casual suggestion.

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      • mosckerr's avatar

        Thank you David for your quote of the NT, it further serves as proof of why Jews reject this false substitute theology.

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  4. davidbowerkingwood's avatar

    https://rdavidbower.com/2016/02/28/a-surprising-discovery/

    Try this.

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